Hi everyone, I’m one of the administrators of the Lemmy feddit.it instance - my nick is @poliverso@poliverso@feddit.it
Together with our fellow administrators, based on some impact assessments, we have decided not to operate any preventative block against Threads, but I am not aware that we are still federated. I noticed that your instance is federated to Threads instead, but I don’t understand how this was possible. The strange thing is that, from your instance, it is still not possible to view those dozen Threads accounts that are currently “federable”. So I wanted to ask you: is there a way to force federation?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, sorry for the inconvenience and best wishes for a happy holiday!
It is odd that threads.net appears on our instances page, while the same is not true for other Lemmy instances which have not blocked Threads. Lemmy.world is federated with Threads by default simply because it is not on our instance block list. I do not believe our instance has done anything special to force a link with Threads. I mentioned it in our admin chat and will update this post if I learn anything.
However, even with threads.net listed on our instances page, Threads does not seem to work with Lemmy. I am able to search and view Mastodon user profiles from lemmy.world, but it does not work for any of the Threads test profiles.
Edit: The lemmy.world database has no records for a
personon threads.net. Our best guess is that a Threads user tried to interact with lemmy.world. Perhaps the process got far enough for our instance to recognize threads.net and add it to our instances list, but not far enough to create a record of the user in our DB.Now I understand: I thought that federating Threads was a deliberate choice, but it was probably an incidental phenomenon simply due to the large numbers managed by your instance.
Probably one of the ten Instagram executives who have a federated profile has tried to search for one of your contents. Or he found the message of a followed user who participated in one of your threads in his Timeline. Or they are simply experimenting with your instance…😁
I said the wrong thing here. Excuse me
In any case, there is at least one other Lemmy instance, probably for the same reason: it is an instance that handles quite large numbers anyway:~~https://sh.itjust.works/instances~~EDIT: no it is not true: https://lemmy.world/comment/7949266
sh.itjust.works explicitly blocks Threads. They held a vote among the local users: https://sh.itjust.works/post/11308397
Um… that’s not what it looks like from the relevant page: https://sh.itjust.works/instances
It’s in the “Blocked Instances” section, where it should be.
Federation should hapen automaticly when a user subscribes to content on another instance.
Yes, but I can’t “find” Threads content from Lemmy.world
I think it might happen just from doing a search for the content using the right terms / string?
You cannot view microblog posts from Lemmy, so the only way you’ll see anything from Threads is if a user from there responds to content posted to Lemmy or similar sites. Possibly also if they choose to tag a community in their post, but that seems unlikely for anything else than testing purposes.
Same as Mastodon users, really.
A quick look through the source code suggests that any attempt to interact with or by another instance creates a database entry for it, which makes it show up at /instances. Someone could have tried to view a threads account from lemmy.world, or someone at Threads may have tried to view a lemmy.world post, user, or community from within Threads for testing.
fwiw, it does not appear to be triggerable from within lemmy at this time.
I’ve just tried this on another instance and lemmy complains
The webfinger object did not contain any link to an activitypub item
I suspect this currently can only be triggered from threads.
I’m not a fan of this either.
I understand your choices well. We have made an internal evaluation on the opportunity to federate Threads with our instances: with the mastodon poliversity.it instance we decided to silence Threads; with the Friendica poliverso.org instance we used the newly introduced functionality to obfuscate all the personal data of our users towards Threads; with the Lemmy feddit.it instance, however, we decided to leave the federation to try to allow Italian Threads users (feddit.it is an Italian-speaking instance) to use activitypub groups and discover the “free Fediverse”
Great example of how there isn’t any one right answer here, it’s different for different instances. Can I quote this in the “What will instances do? Opinions differ!” section of https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism ?
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Thanks! Here’s how it looks:
Thanks for the mention. This is a very interesting and informative page for all users of the fediverse
