It would be interesting to know the token cost for all of this. I think they are getting lots free as advertising for Anthropic, would it be feasible otherwise?
i know the author personally. We went to the same university for IT security. His skills are undeniable. Ignoring a legitimately working tool that finds legitimate security problems is just asking for trouble. For all its flaws there are some legitimate uses of LLMs and this is one of them.
maintainers of critical Software can’t afford to be that ignorant.
4.6 Opus was a huge jump from earlier models and the first that was actually useful for things like this from my experience (and 4.7 is significantly worse for some reason).
I have made many anti-LLM posts here and I remain pretty negative on them, but they have absolutely become useful. Part of the problem is the truth is really somewhere between the insane promises and the dismissals.
My problems are many fold though, from being propped up by insane subsidies, the massive power usage to the thing I most care about: taking more power from the masses. The more useful they get, the more power gets concentrated to those able to afford the data centers.
Computers used to be at least somewhat democratizing, sure there were some things like weather modeling that an ordinary person couldn’t do, but a random person on thier computer could put something together to change the world.
What happens when the breakthroughs are available only for the wealthiest? Regular folks can buy tokens at a reasonable price today, but running cutting edge models on consumer hardware isn’t really feasible. We’ve ceded too much control.
taking more power from the masses.
That’s promoted by AI haters. The copyright people want to privatize human knowledge and charge rent for it. The latest lawsuit against Meta even includes Elsevier, ffs.
Then there’s all the busy-bodies who want everything surveilled “for the children”. Cause people might be chatting about self-harm, or generate nudes, or some other “harmful” content.
a random person on thier computer could put something together to change the world.
Yes. For example the random people who founded these AI start-ups.
Right now, the world of technology is uniquely malleable in a way it has not been since the dotcom crash. That’s what motivates most of the hate. It’s people who feel that they will lose out; eg the news media that already suffers from the rise of the internet.
Yes. I hesitated to post this because I understand that many here would prefer not to know. But, at least, people need a chance to learn the facts and make their own decisions. The amount of anti-AI disinformation is crazy.
I’m anti LLM for a lot of applications, for a lot of reasons, but there are obviously things that it is useful for, and I think this is one of them. If a cybersecurity specialist reviews the flaws flagged by the LLM, confirms they are legitimate, and uses that data to fix them, I don’t see an issue.
The amount of Claude Mythos disinformation pushed by MSM is crazy.
That hasn’t aged well.
Why do you think that?
Were you thinking of this instead?Why do you think that?
*gestures at OP*
Were you thinking of this instead?
No. Why would I?
What makes you think your article makes Anthropic look any less meager or perverse (respectively) in the two articles I provided?
I don’t actually know what you mean.
Would he have any moral or ethical concerns about promoting a tool that was used to legitimize killing in children in Iran?
@Nomad@infosec.pub thoughts, now that you read this? I hope you and your friend don’t turn a blind eye. Mozilla’s ethical stance is important.
Its not the tool that is evil, but the intent its used with. That’s all I’m gonna say on that topic.
I’m learning a lot about Mozilla’s ethics today.
It sounds like you and your friend believe they are outmoded. Anthropic is not just a toolmaker, they host the thing that was used to decide to kill children, and its CEO Dario Amodei has expressed desire to continue building war weapons.
In retrospect, do you and your friend believe that the product made by a homophobe such as Brendan Eich is just a tool too?
@Nomad@infosec.pub if you’re going to interact, please remember that you were accepted by the Firefox fan community as a spokesperson for your Mozilla employee friend. How deeply are you and friend burying your heads? Surely your ethics hasn’t degenerated into no longer believing the thing you said a few hours ago, I hope.
