• viking@piefed.ca
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    2 months ago

    There is threema, a Swiss messenger that gained some popularity earlier since they had end to end encryption before whatsapp.

    Unfortunately the source code is not open (even though they do get annual audits with public reports), and the client costs 3 EUR or something (once).

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      2 months ago

      And Switzerlands records in terms of privacy sadly is far worse than most people think - even with the last attack being repelled.

      Matrix (preferably on a non-matrix.org instance) currently is the preferable non US and privacy friendly way.

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      2 months ago

      Yeah, but Threema has basically no momentum behind it at all at this point.
      I’m putting my social capital behind the option that currently stands the most chance of beating out Whatsapp

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          2 months ago

          Then by all means keep that momentum going.
          I’m just looking at this from a Dutch perspective, where Signal is seeing by far the most growth.

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            2 months ago

            You can help making it stronger. That’s what I did in Germany: if people want to contact me, I usually give them my Threema ID first, everything else comes later.

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              2 months ago

              But my goal is not to move to Threema, my goal is to move away from Whatsapp.
              Signal fits the bill while expending far less social capital convincing people to use it.