Written by Steven Vaughan-Nichols, Senior Contributing Editor
July 23, 2025 at 11:31 a.m. PT
Recently, vibe coding bit Jason Lemkin, trusted advisor to SaaStr, the Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) business community, in the worst possible way. The vibe program, Replit, he said, went “rogue during a code freeze and shutdown and deleted our entire database.”
In a word: Wow. Just wow.
You can hire an actual programmer for that kind of money. Someone with years of experience who knows what they are doing.
They could also hire me and get the same quality work as the AI. 😌
Easily. AI is a sham
You can hire a couple for that money.
Good software engineers should make a lot more than 48k
Not my more.
Last time I was in Arizona I saw signs for McDonald’s hiring starting at $20/hour. You think an experienced software engineer should be making essentially the same wage as a McDonald’s worker?
Consdering I did twenty years as a developer and SEO, and also spent my time before that flipping a few burgers. I can say they damn sure work harder than developers.
Also. You sure youre better than them? I mean, you have the right to say they aren’t worth it?
As someone who has also done both, flipping burgers should obviously be paid less than engineers lol it’s hilarious you’d think otherwise.
Nice job putting words in my mouth at the end. Imagine thinking the amount you are paid makes you better. Holy shit dude.
I didnt t say that. I said they work harder
And now… Well. A. I builds most if it. You guys just clean it up.
Not like when we ran BBS systems even in the 80s. Not much realy going on other than api calls, maybe some data normalization here and there.
Oh you do have to put up wuth FAR more drama and B. S.
Now physically you don’t work harder. Like at all. Let’s not lie. We both know that. You do work harder mentally. In both cases the work is needed, and is important to the customer.
The fact that you class one form of work over another as worth more is ridiculous. And classist. More like you see a cast syttem and i see people.
If you want to really go that route garbage men should make three times what a developer does. Compared to them we developers and SEOS are useless.
So. Go feel superior somewhere else. I dont have any time for arrogant kids looking down on others.
At no point did I say, or even hint that making more money means you are a better person, or worth more. By asking me if I think I am better than McDonald’s workers, you are saying that self worth is tied to wage. So yes you did say that.
How much someone is paid is based on how much money they generate, and how much responsibility/stress the job has. There aren’t many jobs with less responsibilities and stress as McDonalds workers. You aren’t up all night hoping that that buns don’t spoil overnight.
If you want to live in a fantasy world where how much someone is paid is based solely on how hard they work, then that’s fine. But we are talking about the real world here.
I really don’t understand the hostility, calling me an arrogant kid. Is this how you respond to everyone that had a different opinion than you?
You seem to have a very broken view of work and self worth. At no point in any of my responses have I alluded that making more money had anything to do with being superior, better, worth more. Yet you keep saying how superior I must feel. You must realize this is 100% your projection.