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    17 hours ago

    Nope. Cloudflare use a complex set of fingerprinting tools that determine security scores. It’s literally social credit system for web user agents and the site admits have little control over that.

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      15 hours ago

      While true that there are security scores, the site admins set which score (if any) to block at. So, they do have control over that. Same goes for the bot fight mode as well. So, site admins do have control over whether or not to block based on the associated score, just not over the calculation itself unless configured otherwise.

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        13 hours ago

        The control is very limited unless you’re enterprise subscriber and even then CF is super sneaky and doesnt actually report the real world. I had a few clients where they were clearly suffering losses due to cf implementation (you could literally see sales dip when cf is enabled) but they didnt believe me because cf dashboard doesn’t report false positives or anything of that sort and they had no in house analytics to really understand the issue.

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          3 hours ago

          It’s literally not limited. If you don’t put a WAF rule based on the score then it doesn’t get blocked based on the score. It’s that easy. I’ve got clients and my own site on Cloudflare, so I know how it works. You don’t even need the pro subscription to do that.

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            3 hours ago

            You control the score but not how its calculated. My score is incredibly high just because I’m on Linux with Firefox - how important is that to you as an e-commerse site admin?

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              2 hours ago

              I said that in my original comment:

              just not over the calculation itself

              If you don’t use the score, it’s not a factor. I don’t use the score at all for my clients. You are not required to use it.