• MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl
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    3 days ago

    At least China builds infrastructure. At least China has near universal healthcare. China seems to actually give a shit about its people to at least some extent.

    • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 day ago

      I’m not saying Washington/the US is better than China. But, the devil you know. Also, the devil we know (the west) has probably lied to us in a few ways about China. I remember as a kid I believed children in China were starving. I also remember hearing that they kill female babies (and often not humanely) because of their one child policy. My dream when I was a kid was to save all those girls and educate them and teach them basic fighting skills… may have been like a Charlies Angels kind of thing going on in my head.

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      2 days ago

      Doesn’t America also have near universal healthcare then? The system is pretty similar, get insurance through work unless old or poor

      Edit: lol downvotes. Both systems cost money and neither is universal. Stop simping the hypercapitalist republic of China, it’s not that much better than the US.

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          3 days ago

          But then neither does China. Is what I’m saying.

          By the Chinese definition of it, it’s very close.

          In 2024, approximately 92.0% of Americans had health insurance for some or all of the year, according to the U.S. Census Bureau

          For China it was 95%

          Neither country gives you free insurance unless you’re old or poor enough.

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            2 days ago

            Ok but your not speaking to a Chinese, but to a Canadian, so don’t make me laugh any harder than you already have or I’ll need to go see a doctor for free.

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              2 days ago

              I’m Estonian, I unfortunately can’t say it’s free, as it costs 5 euros per visit for ER and specialty doctors and 2.50 per night stayed in hospital if you have surgery or something.

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          3 days ago

          I think you’re unfamiliar with at least one of the two systems then because they’re described as pretty similar by people who have lived in both countries. Both are pay 2 play, American one is just more expensive.

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              23 hours ago

              Lol ok. Fact is, they have nearly the same coverage and both achieve it through private insurance usually paid by the employer - China just has a few more extra groups that get their equivalent of Medicare and Medicaid, but that’s it.