I’m never gonna get another job in software, am I?
Edit: I physically let out a cry of pain after reading possibly 10,000 engineers of varying seniority had been fired (incident was reported on LinkedIn and judged based on the dip in Oracle’s internal Slack membership count).
Yeah, I should just start trying to move into a new field, huh.
I don’t know why software engineers being on lemmy, so are using activitypub, are so down and out about industry job cuts. Don’t get me wrong, change of industry might be on the cards, but that doesn’t mean being a software engineer stops, and these proof of concept sites and networks are a revelation.
There are so many projects for software engineers. For example, Activitypub is the chance to develop a genuinely healthy market of small to medium sized networked social media sites that are far more reactive to users, unique, and experimental than the likes of engagement driven fb could ever be.
I don’t know, the rivers of gold might be over for a portion of ‘big’ tech software engineers, but it seems like a super exciting time to be in small enterprise software engineering, with the plethora amount of projects that could be being explored.
Of course there are heaps of other non-social media software engineering small scale projects, i just focused on activitypub here because it seems so strange and obvious to a rando like me.
The coal miners were told to learn to code, but maybe software engineers should be learning coal mining at this point. With all the AI data centers being built, there sure is going to be a lot of demand for coal.
Just speaking for myself, as a systems administrator, I am actively pursuing my backup plans to get out of IT ASAP. What’s coming is topsy-turvy and will be dog eat dog.
it’s possible. just, if you are looking right now, don’t expect the same salary you were getting. Be willing to take a minor pay cut, and be willing to take a service industry job just to get money. (that never touches your resume)
I was in accounting and very underemployed when Arthur Andersen disintegrated. And then again for Lehman Brothers. It was rough, but I got through.
the job search will destroy your soul. take breaks to keep yourself from doing things you will regret.
oof i didn’t think it was that bad, i hadn’t looked at actual numbers. iirc folk were doing 15-20 cuts back during the crises i was dealing with. wfh was unheard of back then tho, so like i get where you’re coming from.
The icing on the cake is that most of the offers are 6mo contracts, no benefits, with the option to hire or extend. This way the company can decide they don’t really need the position in six months and walk away with no recourse.
First, Epic, now Oracle.
I’m never gonna get another job in software, am I?
Edit: I physically let out a cry of pain after reading possibly 10,000 engineers of varying seniority had been fired (incident was reported on LinkedIn and judged based on the dip in Oracle’s internal Slack membership count).
Yeah, I should just start trying to move into a new field, huh.
I don’t know why software engineers being on lemmy, so are using activitypub, are so down and out about industry job cuts. Don’t get me wrong, change of industry might be on the cards, but that doesn’t mean being a software engineer stops, and these proof of concept sites and networks are a revelation.
There are so many projects for software engineers. For example, Activitypub is the chance to develop a genuinely healthy market of small to medium sized networked social media sites that are far more reactive to users, unique, and experimental than the likes of engagement driven fb could ever be.
I don’t know, the rivers of gold might be over for a portion of ‘big’ tech software engineers, but it seems like a super exciting time to be in small enterprise software engineering, with the plethora amount of projects that could be being explored.
Of course there are heaps of other non-social media software engineering small scale projects, i just focused on activitypub here because it seems so strange and obvious to a rando like me.
I trained as a clown at literal clown school. Everyone laughed at me and told me I should’ve been a software engineer. Well, no ones laughing now.
Do I amuse you?
so you’re a bad clown then?.. :)
:|
The coal miners were told to learn to code, but maybe software engineers should be learning coal mining at this point. With all the AI data centers being built, there sure is going to be a lot of demand for coal.
learn electrician…ship? it’s always useful, especially when there’s lots of solar panels to install
I believe it’s electrical engineering. A safe trade (pun intended) for the foreseeable.
I feel you here. I graduated into covid and then as soon as things started opening again all these non stop layoffs
Just speaking for myself, as a systems administrator, I am actively pursuing my backup plans to get out of IT ASAP. What’s coming is topsy-turvy and will be dog eat dog.
it’s possible. just, if you are looking right now, don’t expect the same salary you were getting. Be willing to take a minor pay cut, and be willing to take a service industry job just to get money. (that never touches your resume)
I was in accounting and very underemployed when Arthur Andersen disintegrated. And then again for Lehman Brothers. It was rough, but I got through.
the job search will destroy your soul. take breaks to keep yourself from doing things you will regret.
Minor pay cut?! Try 30% and no work from home. Companies smell blood in the water and low balling salaries across the board.
oof i didn’t think it was that bad, i hadn’t looked at actual numbers. iirc folk were doing 15-20 cuts back during the crises i was dealing with. wfh was unheard of back then tho, so like i get where you’re coming from.
The icing on the cake is that most of the offers are 6mo contracts, no benefits, with the option to hire or extend. This way the company can decide they don’t really need the position in six months and walk away with no recourse.
oh, the fuck you contractors special. i know those contracts. it’s better to go work retail. they at least will give you benefits and stability.
my outlook might be colored by some incidents but you may have better luck than i have on those six month shit contracts.
Or try to get them to let you work that through your own LLC and triple up. lol