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I don’t have the time to write out the full response to this I want to right now, so I just want to say there is an almost immeasurable gulf between someone like Linus Torvalds using AI for debugging vs a coked out techbro junior engineer vibecoding the next Spotify but for access to water.
In my heart of hearts I still wish he wouldn’t touch the stuff just for the message this is going to send to all the wrong kinds of people but here we are.
If an AI can find the bug and point it out, I don’t see a problem, as long as it is checked thoroughly enough by an actual skilled programmer, to make sure that doing what the AI suggest is not making things worse.
So you don’t care about environment, huh?
Hey, Mr. Self-righteous. Tell us about how you live in a small efficient urban dwelling served nearly entirely by renewable energy, that you don’t own a car, don’t eat meat, and never take longer than a 5 minute shower.
And if even one of those things isn’t true, I demand a full explanation for why you hate the planet and want it to die.
Especially if you own a car. If you own a car and you’re shaming people for the environmental impact of AI, you owe it to us all to sell that thing today and prove your superiority to the rest of us.
EDIT: Nevermind, just reviewed your comment history to see that you are an enthusiastic spectator of the Russia/Ukraine war. Given that war is the single most ecologically destructive force on the planet, it is clear that you are completely irredeemable, and should keep your snide comments to yourself.
It’s really easy to not use ai. It’s not a necessity and not even a part of any “lifestyle” that some people would miss.
The exact quote is:
And this was a debug session from hell, enormously helped by an AI doing much of the grunt-work.
I’d like to call it my tireless helper, but the AI several times stated flat out that this was impossible and unsolvable and that we should just write a report about it.
I suspect those things have been trained by people who may not be quite as stubborn as I am.
But while the AI was ready to give up several times, it did keep adding debug code and analyzing it faithfully when I pushed. So credit where credit is due and I let the AI write the commit message above.
This is basically a one-liner fixing a bogus “round_up()” to a “round_down()”, but there were 24 patches adding more and more debug information to this, and 18 kernel boot to finally narrow it down to this. - Linus
That’s a long way short of finding the bug and pointing it out, and instead is just the tedious work of adding checks and then deciding where to add more checks when you have the result of the previous checks. I suspect if we’d spent a trillion dollars on a tool for that, we could have come up with something much more efficient than an LLM.
“who may not be quite as stubborn as I am” that is the most Linus torvalds thing to say. good to see his passive agressive nature being put in a press release.
Press release? This is a git commit.
You must be an ex reddit user as you neither clicked the link, nor looked at the domain it linked to.
You will be surprised to know, “ex-reddit user” is the majority of Lemmy users.
But most of us have the decency to be ashamed about it.
why? reddit actually had content and debate
Reddit had the Epstein-Zionist entity follow you tirelessly and downvote random posts you made just for speaking out against them in some niche subreddit.
Not to mention the downvote-mentality of the generic NPC Redditor. I’d rather avoid putting effort into speaking publicly, than to have such “debates”. Waste of time if you ask me, because a lot of their locals just sit in their echo chambers and don’t do anything productive with their lives… that is, if they’re real people in the first place and not just AI algorithms or paid bot farms.
“debate”
I don’t think I had a single coherent argument on that godforsaken hellsite
The code it committed has comments with “old code did this”, “old code did that”, like AI likes to insert. That is not useful info. It’s what version control is for… You can explain why you do a thing, like the AI does at the start, the actual code edited. The assertion it edited is just clutered with irrelevant info now. Is including history like this the usual style for the kernel, seeing that Linus himself signed off on it?
Hahaha
cool
