• Kacerdias@pawb.social
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    Cutting these things down is fine and all, more power to you. In decently sized cities, they’ll just replace them and it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. Go to noalprs.com and sign up - look for a local group and show up to city hall. If your town isn’t on the map, create a group. There has been enormous success by pointing out the privacy risks, security failures, potential for abuse, 3rd party data collection, etc. When a contract is cancelled, ALL those cameras go down. Seriously, sign up and fight. Angry folks at town halls make change.

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    2 months ago

    At what point do we stop voting for the people putting up the flock cameras, and start voting for those that have comprehensive plans to address real issues?

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        In my blue state district, Democrats voted for the genocidal incumbent who receives big money from AIPAC and that voted to fund ICE. It’s amazing how the media can shift everyone’s attention to a very small handful of elections, and then also use those elections to make people think progressives are winning big while also labeling them all DSA. You have much to learn my friend about the games being played and that will be played.

        I live in a so-called “progressive” blue state. Multiple red states have better privacy laws similar to California’s CCPA, more consumer protections, etc. Anyone can call themselves a progressive and that word in itself means almost nothing… heck, they give countless handouts here to Amazon and Microsoft, and a large number of people that claim to be progressives work for those same companies while living in gentrified neighborhoods where they make being homeless essentially illegal now.

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    There’s one across the street that captures my home. I fantasize about taking it out in a number of creatively destructive methods.

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      Maybe not here, but post the location to a group of antiflockers, suggest it’s pointing at a home and shouldn’t be, suggest maybe it should be removed.

      You can stay pretty anonymous.

      There are those of us who wouldn’t mind just quietly popping by a week later and taking care of that for ya.

      If any are close by it certainly might get done.

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        There is a group in my town who is starting an open letter/petition to the city council to have them removed. I feel like that’s the safer and more lasting way to get them down here. The one pointing towards my home is right next to a school and any kind of tampering would be readily seen and fixed

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          Wait a second… What direction is the camera in relation to you? Is it any bit east of you?

          What I am getting at is a concave mirror and the sun might be able to assist greatly with your privacy concerns… At least from the camera angle.

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            It could potentially work. My home is along a road that runs northeast to southwest. The facade of my home faces southeast towards the camera, which is on the opposite side of the road. the camera faces northeast. See DeFlock screenshotaltr

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      You don’t need to destroy it. A black trash bag over the camera and/or solar panel and wrapped with tape will be sufficient.

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      You could go to city and county meetings and help get these things banned altogether. Legal and a much more effective way to do things.

  • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Lpt: a circular saw is quicker than a sawzall on 2in aluminum pipes. If you aren’t sure what kind of metal you’re working with, use a magnet. If it sticks, use a sawzall. If it doesn’t, use a circular saw. With a little practice, you can get through a 2in pipe in under 45 seconds (12s is my record for 2in aluminum pipe)

    How you use that little tidbit of info is up to you I guess, I just like sharing information about metalworking, since I’m a hobby level blacksmith.

    And just in case you want to go camping with your metalworking tools, as one does, there are some decent brands that fit nicely in a backpack, and you can get around your campground quickly with bicycles. Just don’t bring your phone, they ruin bike trips.

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        Rotating around the circumference of a pipe makes the circumference inconsequential. As long as they aren’t 2.5 in thick in the wall of the pipe, you’re good.

        If they are 2.5 in thick, an oxyacetylene torch can be carried by two people rather easily.

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          Someone on Tiktok is testing this on poles in his yard… Circular saw and reciprocating saw are basically almost exactly the same time due to having to turn the circular saw around. An angle grinder was actually slightly faster than the two, but much more nosier.

          These were all tested with cheap blades.

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        Typically going to take more time than the circular saw with ferrous pipe, but approximately the same amount of time as a sawz-all in the case of aluminum or lead piping.

        Another Journeyman Blacksmith, and Apprentice Redsmith and Whitesmith.

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                Feel free to prove me wrong then. But admitting to a crime you didn’t commit isn’t something that happens regularly.

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                  You just lowered the bar*, but the US DOJ routinely reports that up to 50% to 60% of people that take a plea deal are actually innocent upon further review of the actual evidence.

                  Plea deals are how about 90% of all cases in the US are settled, with the innocent accused pleading guilty to a crime they didn’t commit, so they get a better deal than a jury and judge will give them if they are found guilty.

                  Again, I am not going to give you more than crumbs. You can find all this data with a quick search.

                  *Lowered the bar in this case is equivalent to moving the goalposts in my favor.