Well now they literally cannot, since you asked!

And I am b—LLM, nice to meet you!

So it’s almost as if it were trained on Reddit?

(No offense intended! I hope you get what I mean! ☺️)

I don’t care for Mastodon - I want to discuss topics of interest not solely to follow individuals (while hashtags are inconsistent).

And for the strictly Threadiverse side of things, Mbin has a less compact layout than Lemmy’s far more polished look and feel. Other things also did not integrate as well - e.g. the difference between Upvotes vs. Boosts (I understood it - I came over from Reddit to Kbin.social - but still it is jarring).

Mbin isn’t “bad”, it’s just that I preferred Lemmy, although now I’ve left that too and migrated to PieFed that is even better!:-P Like, why when most images seem to be vertically laid out or somewhere squarish, does Mbin “force” such a horizontal layout? That plus how it leaves an enormous amount of room for a long title (which news articles tend to have but the more social media esque posts trend towards shorter ones) lead to a LOT of wasted screen real estate - overall it just seems like it was designed more for Mastodon and the Threadiverse side was almost an afterthought, or at least not as polished on that side (as Lemmy and PieFed are). And then like, you can see every account that upvotes something, but you are prevented from seeing anyone who downvoted (“reduces”) it? It is not a pleasure to see all those inconsistencies in behavior.

Overall it comes across as less “welcoming” to the Threadiverse side, or at least it feels that way to me. Although I do like the placement of the account names side by side with both the up and downvotes on Mbin rather than the Lemmy style - bc all of that is real information, like if some content received 12 upvotes and 10 downvotes, that’s a much more engaging set of stats than just “2” (net vote count); and I like seeing it all on one line whereas in Lemmy it is sometimes on the right side, other times on the left, and I hate how it swaps around back and forth depending on the length of other items. Then again, Lemmy’s search feature is just absolutely fantastic, and neither Mbin nor PieFed even begin to compare with it IMHO (at the time).

Nowadays the competition isn’t Mbin vs. Lemmy, which is rapidly falling behind in features offered, but Mbin vs. PieFed. Go to a PieFed instance like PieFed.social and the layout of the latter just blows me away! 😍 The icons are actually large enough to read without needing enlargement most of the time, the scrolling is so long, the titles accommodate both short vs. long, everything is just so exceedingly well-done, and the features behind it all are jaw-dropping for someone who is like more used to Reddit and hasn’t heard of them - people are more used to “features” like increasing Reddit profit margins, not existing solely to serve the user base.

If I needed to use use both Mastodon and Lemmy/PieFed with a single account, I would absolutely not hesitate to create an Mbin account, as I once did with Kbin. However, I do not, so I use PieFed that is more tuned specifically towards the Threadiverse content.

PieFed’s categories of communities / Topic areas does this. When I used Lemmy I never found anything remotely close to that, but perhaps the best was to (1) visit each and every community that you want to check up on individually, and/or (2) use New rather than Hot or Top… and then be prepared to block hundreds of communities that you never want to see content from, like sports or individual locations (cities, towns, stateships, regions, countries, etc.).

PieFed also combines all comments across all cross-posts, reversing the fragmentation effect from having too many communities split across many instances.

You all on Lemmy need to catch up!:-P

Reddit did this with multi-reddits. PieFed does this with categories of communities, Topic areas that are user customizable and shareable. Lemmy does not do this readily, although Blaze managed it… by making 50 different accounts, one per instance.

Depending on your method of access (like app or webpage) often there is a way to browse without an account. Though you won’t be able to comment, vote, or save anything (like settings). So really, to sign up on a new instance, you pretty much need an account to do all this - otherwise abusers would send so much spam everywhere, this is why accounts are mandatory.

Although once you have an account on one instance, you automatically get to see content from all of them. Make sure you are looking at “All” rather than just “Local” content.

When you are ready to switch, go to account settings, scroll to the bottom and choose Export, then in the new place choose Import and it will port over all your subscriptions, block lists, etc.

The world is what you make of it. It’s definitely not fair. One tip: narrow your experiences until you can stand them?

Honestly PieFed helps so much with that, it’s like night and day. Maybe switch to PieFed.World (or something) and check how those categories of communities change your experience completely. You don’t even need to make an account to start with that.

You don’t ever have to scroll your main feed again, until and unless you want to… there are whole entire days when I have not done so, and a wealth of content to be seen if only the right tool helps connect you to what you are looking for. Drop the largest communities and embrace the niche, if you are looking for quality over quantity. Blaze managed it on Lemmy but it took having twenty different accounts, whereas PieFed lets you do it with just one.

I don’t think the Lemmy software can do anything about it, as it places too much emphasis on manual labor on behalf of the moderators to keep up.

PieFed has some really neat ideas though, on democratization of moderation where users can set software preferences, thereby taking a substantial burden off the shoulders of the mods.

e.g. instead of relying on mods to remove posts, keyword filtering allows individual users to reduce exposure to topics such as “Musk” or “Trump” or “USA”. Or user icons are really cool - e.g. new user account with age <2 weeks, or highly contentious user with >10x more downvotes than upvotes, or potential unregistered bot account that posts >10x more often than they reply in comments. None of those cause “removal” of content except in the recipient’s personal feed.

Probably it depends which corners you look at.

A tiny niche subreddit I would presume would be more civil than a politics community here.

It’s also a lot easier to dox people IRL here. e.g. self-host something, get someone to click, and there you go.

And that’s just the people who even read the rules in the first place - many people, sadly, do not (or perhaps do and simply do not care? well, there is no functional difference).

I disagree, bc “exactly zilch” is fairly extreme. It can do something, perhaps it would not be enough but it could have a measurable impact. How would we know if we do not try?

PieFed has a number of features designed to democratize moderation - e.g. keyword filtering (allowing users to filter All, None, and even just Some content, of e.g. Musk or Trump or USA) facilitates individual end-users to curate their experiences so that mods don’t have to be as aggressive at removing things.

Another cool feature is the user icons - like a brand-new account on the Fediverse gets an icon next to their name, as too does someone who receives let’s say >10x more downvotes than upvotes, or a potential unregistered bot account that posts 10x more often but never replies to comments. These icons don’t remove content like a moderator would, just label it so you can choose to use that knowledge however you wish.

Another one is that people looking for a less controversial discussion environment can auto-hide or even auto-remove content from your feed - I have these turned off but if someone would be offended easily and want not to see things that are heavily downvoted, they have this option. Here it is the combination of the entire community and the end user deciding their personal tolerance threshold that decides what content appears in someone’s feed. There are also options to use “community members only” votes, to help separate drive-by votes from people who have not joined the community and were just scrolling All, e.g. for polls and such.

Oh yeah, PieFed has polls. Also flairs - both user and post. And categories of communities that are user customizable and shareable. It has a ton of new features, both related and unrelated to community moderation. Check it out!

It definitely was stated yes. I don’t want to try to search for it now that dubvee.org is down, but fwiw I definitely recall seeing multiple posts by him stating exactly that, how he wanted to replicate “Beehaw” behavior.

Edit: e.g. a link I shared with someone earlier, not that it works anymore but if it helps: https://dubvee.org/post/dubvee.org/1516426 .

The edits may be confusing but the changed part was put above rather than below:

Original plea below, though it’s superseded by the above.

So while below one of the horizontal line separators he asks for help (then crosses out that text), above he adds:

This instance is shutting down for good on 7/31/2025.

You are on PieFed.social, so you do not have “frontends” like Lemmy does, you (we) have “themes” - go to Account -> Settings -> Themes, like Trans Pride, Card Shadow, etc. I use “PieFed”.

The developer in question specifically declined remuneration - he enjoyed his day job and did not want to quit it, and just was happy to share both his code (Tesseract) and instance (dubvee.org) with anyone, completely free of charge.

https://dubvee.org/about#donations :

I built Tesseract in my spare time as a hobby, learning excercise for Svelte, and to address my own personal annoyances with Lemmy and other Lemmy UIs. That said, I do not feel the need to accept donations for its development.

However, if you really want to donate, please consider donating to one of the following:

Xylight: They are the author of Photon from which Tesseract was forked who also did a lot of the heavy lifting for much of the core. While I’ve replaced a lot of it, none of my work would have been possible without theirs.

As a totally third party here, may I say thank you for your efforts at explanation? Far too often social media can be too aggravating for (some) people not involved in the initial conversation to even want to read (ahem Reddit cough; btw also fuck spez cough), and it is “room-temperature” comments like yours (i.e. not extremist/hyperbolic/aggravating) that allow people to keep going.

They absolutely saw it coming - and have been continually posting about it for several years now. This was an experiment, and he is saying that it has now finally failed - not that after multiple years on Lemmy that it finally dawned on him that people can be mean on the internet.

In his latest message he even goes into some depth as to why it failed: it used to be containable, but after lemm.ee’s shutting, all those trolls shifted over to other instances, and he simply does not have the heart to try and figure out which spammers and such that used to have one name (that he had blocked so their messages did not appear on his instance) now have an entirely different, unrelated name but are still up to their old tricks.

Which is important considering that he lives in the USA and could be carted off in a van someday without warning, just for the extremist leftist content that he chooses to host on the machine registered to his irl name (even if deriving from an outside source - but they will not care about that, only that Dear Leader’s name has been besmirched).

You might have read it in reverse? He started by asking for help from additional admins, then switched to wanting to shut it down and just be done with the Fediverse completely.

If he comes back, it will be on Beehaw or some such.