Define good? I mean if you look at the work they’ve been doing over the past decade, as such a tiny company, it’s objectively awesome (sheer size, but also quality)! But I myself turned away from the first Jolla phones frustrated from all the kinks that were never fixed (in that time frame while that hardware was still viable - some were probably fixed in the meantime, some not). The experience remains a compromise: you get freedom from Big Tech, but you do not get several other things you’ve been taking for granted, because of Big Tech. Just one example, you can run Android apps, but if your phone has a fingerprint sensor (the last Jolla community phone didn’t), Android apps can’t use it. There is the camera issue that I mentioned (Jolla is not a camera company). It’s always something, so you have to be okay with that if you want Jolla or Sailfish OS. But I will still mention that it is the most mature, full-featured mobile Linux out of all the mobile Linux efforts that have sprung up these past years. Jolla was first, and they remain ahead of the curve in this space.

But not comparing the FP6’s camera with other phones: How happy are you with yours? Do you like the photos?

No offense, but you’re part of a niche audience there. The vast majority of consumers just want their photos to look good (even when good means “not like reality”). “I need it to have a good camera” ia something you hear over and over again when people tell want it is important to them in a phone.

AOSP is nice and everything, but you do realize with their next move, Google can take it away anytime they want, right? They actually have already taken steps that make it harder to create independent ROMs, by stopping the publication of device trees.

You should definitely consider the Jolla, but cameras are basically never great on degoogled devices, because flashing a new rom also deletes the OEM proprietary firmware, which was tailor-made for that device. What you get instead is a generic software that never comes close to matching the original quality. I think the hardware makers who sell degoogled phones, like Fairphone, would have chance to make good cameras, but none of them have actual years of experience making cameras, as companies like Samsung and Sony do.

Regulators won’t be any help - Apple has always been even more locked down than that, and no one forbade it, so how are they gonna stop Google from doing the same? IMO the only way out is to leave Android and turn to Linux completely (that means Linux hardware adaptation layers, no more Android anywhere). Some phones have already been made like this

But what OS? Thats not the same as the launcher

I didn’t get if you’re using the preinstalled OS or trying to install a custom ROM? It makes quite the big difference for recommendations

Wow, that’s quite terribly written…

IMHO it’s a dumb idea to have a “companion” smartphone to a “real” smartphone. Either the thing will do for your needs all day, then you don’t need a second one. Or it doesn’t, then it’s not the right one for you. IMO this phone should be way enough and need not be accompanied by anything. We don’t actually need all that functionality in our pockets all day, every day.

Hiw do you know it’s those people? What’s your source? Fxtec sure was a letdown. Not a complete scam like the Turing Phones, but almost…

This feels so contradictory! You don’t write that much text on a phone - but enough to buy a full-size keyboard for it, that you carry around in your backpack? I don’t think many people like going to that much trouble. An extra thing whose battery status needs to be monitored, an extra thing to turn the Bluetooth for - and where do you place it for typing? Where do you put the phone so you can see the screen? Needs a table.

Dopamine, mostly - says my brain. It wants the dope.

Yes, and now can we please have this with a hardware keyboard instead of the gamepad? Thanks for restoring peace and prosperity to the world of smartphones, shut up and take my money