Out of curiosity, what happens if you try to run gamescope from the terminal to just run anything (not even having proton in the mix).
For example:
gamescope -f -W 2560 -H 1440 -r 144 --force-grab-cursor --mangoapp – glxgears
If this doesn’t run, you should get some log lines at least to let you know whats on fire with gamescope.
Right. 1F = 1C/1V … they could have just as easily said 1kF = 1C/1V. Many things use kg instead of g. You can tie together things other than the unscaled base units. Then they are still tied together but 1F is a more reasonable amount.
I feel like “Japanese games” is pretty vague. Square Enix and Fromsoft are some of the largest Japanese studios out there and their games work great on Linux.
This lightning talk requires running SteamVR for the room setup bits, and it recommends a few things in the name of “user friendliness” that I would otherwise not suggest (Ubuntu bad, Gnome bad, etc). (edit: so switching to Monado wouldn’t really help since it would require SteamVR working in the first place, and if SteamVR works… OP could just use SteamVR)
But it does show a lot of problems and solutions and things to try along the way.
Based on https://db.vronlinux.org/ (which is like protondb for VR, kinda), monado works better for VRChat, but otherwise SteamVR should honestly work just fine.
Is your issue getting it to start at all, or performance issues?
For me it wouldnt start at all in the default big picture mode and would only start in desktop mode.
I made a few tweaks to get performance tuned up when I was on the Vega64, but I don’t remember what all I did there.
edit: Also, I’m the KDE desktop (i wanted my HTPC/VRPC to be as steamdeck similar as possible, and also I have strong anti gnome feelings).
Yeah. Valve Index.
I originally got it working on a Ryzen 1700, and Vega64. But Vega64 is old GCN architecture and it performed poorly.
I have since upgraded the VR setup to Ryzen 5950x and Radeon 6900xt, and it works quite well. I just played an hour of Beat Saber actually.
Interesting. I use Bazzite for my SteamVR setup. Though I do have to swap to desktop mode for VR, otherwise works great (I have a steamdeck build installed because HTPC, so it boots to big picture, but the desktop mode still works).
Unfortunately that is the target frame rate for steam deck most of the time.
So runs like crap is more like “runs as intended”
Sure.you figure out which parts to scale when.
But point being that it quickly pivots into automating away tasks you were previously doing by hand.
I didnt notice at first but a friend pointed it out: it’s the same game loop as cookie clicker. This is just an idle/clicker game. You start manual dealing/clicking. And then you automate it. and it turns into a game of managing your automations rather than actually clicking yourself.
“I was expecting it to be a joke 20 minutes then throw away game, but holy crap, this is actually pretty deep and well thought out.” - Also my friend.
My take is that Windows experience sucks so bad that even HP won’t touch it. But “HP sucks” is a very valid point.
This can go one of two ways:
The second way shouldn’t even be possible, but never underestimate HP’s ability to make something worse than you thought possible.
You may not agree, but some people actually like the platform integration features that Galaxy and Steam and the like provide. Cloud sync and achievements and things that you may not care about are important to other people.
And then there’s just the whole “They said they would, and this is not very reassuring about their commitment to Linux users.”
I have an ultrawide with a 16:9 on either side mounted portrait. I get the vertical space and the ultrawide.
Got it. Linux is not VR ready until it supports discontinued headsets. that were previously at 10% of the 2% market, but are now even less (because it’s discontinued, and thus only going to continue to shrink).
The number of different branded headsets using WMR doesn’t make it significant in any way. Based on Steam hardware survey, WMR headsets only account for 2.84% of VR headsets. Index, Quest 2, Quest 3 account for ~70% of VR headsets in use, and they all work on Linux. Index just naturally in SteamVR and it’s my understanding that setting up ALVR for the quest ones isn’t that tricky (but I’ve also never tried). And much of the remaining 30% other headsets work with ALVR too.
And the point of comparing things to Windows, is that if we’re stating “Linux isn’t ready for gaming because not every VR headset works”, then by that definition Windows isn’t either. Which you probably agree with, but generally speaking “people” / society view Windows as ready for gaming despite it not supporting every headset.
It’s basically getting into the “Fortnite doesn’t work on Linux” type of situation now. Some things are just never going to work, and it’s because of the creator of those things and not Linux itself, and who cares. Even if the things that don’t work are popular, that doesn’t mean that on the whole, the OS isn’t ready.
Also, according to steam only 1.9% of accounts have a VR headset. That alone makes VR an edge case. but 2.84% of 1.9% is 0.05% of overall steam accounts using WMR. I think Linux can be ready for gaming without WMR support.
Counter point: VR is working. It’s not working for your specific hardware and use case.
My Oculus Dev Kit 1 and 2 don’t work properly on Windows anymore. Does that mean Windows isn’t ready for gaming because my specific VR hardware doesn’t work on it? Or does it mean that “VR ready” doesn’t have to include every VR headset.
I recently switched my VR PC from Windows to Bazzite. No compiling necessary.
This comes a year and a half after they resorted to disabling Wayland support
Yeah. A lot of progress has been made in the past year and a half. This is a clickbait headline. It’s not like last week they were like “this is super broken… oh well shipping it anyway.” It feels like pointing out their previous criticisms is almost trying to call them out as hypocritical or something.
It was previously broken. They said it was broken. And now it’s fixed, and they re-enabled it as the default. There’s no bigger story or drama around their previous comments.
SteamDeck + SteamOS has the same compatibility and playable games as ArchLinux/Fedora/Ubuntu/desktop linux.
PS5 and FreeBSD do not have any overlap there. If PS5 had no proprietary layers on top of BSD (or the layers were otherwise accessible to the public and could be installed on top of BSD by end users), then you would be right in a way.
But any game released for SteamDeck, I can run on a linux desktop without any special tweaking, so they are related enough. Any game released on PS5 will not run on a BSD desktop, so clearly they are not related in the same way.
SteamDeck being popular and mainstream means that more games work on SteamDeck, and more games working on SteamDeck means more games working on Linux. (Another aspect which is not true of PS5 and BSD).
So having people in the industry, who will potentially be involved with the studios, having (and enjoying) a SteamDeck means studios will hear things like “I hope I can play this on my SteamDeck” from people involved in the creation of games … which helps push forward Linux gaming. Even if only a little.
Well sorry. If it works for glxgears there is probably some other weird interaction happening with Steam + Gamescope + Game launching. (you could try to add glxgears as a non steam game to further push the boundaries of if anything will run from steam).
I don’t have an nvidia GPU so I couldn’t even possibly comment on the state of that situation, but I wish you the best of luck.