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Point out any issues or changes you’d make!

(So I can feed them into my prompt and pretend I knew what you were talking about)

Imagine the ecological benefit of having to reencode a couple of petabytes.

Yeah it is, thats why you’ll hear ‘cleanroom development’ tossed around, to refer to someone that has never seen the other software’s source is developing its replacement.

This matters legally because its an airtight way to prove no copyright could have been violated. Usually the community overlooks such minor violations to support new developers, but unfortunately this sentiment is changing fast thanks to the modern piracy landscape.

The term ‘cleanroom’ has gotten pretty muddied with AI taking it over to mean ‘mathematically exclusively derived from the original source, but cleanroom makes us claim legal overship over someone else’s work so that’s what it is’. You can see how the meaning has drifted quite a lot once it reached marketing.

I haven’t seen any precedent in US or other courts on the originality of AI code, but if you have any links I’d be interested in learning more. It would be quite a monumental ruling, because it requires us to ask - how small of an AI model is technically original?

If I train an ‘AI’ on a single pice of work, can I then claim ownership over it legally? Or does it specifically require whatever the current state of the art datacenters are at? Cause then its just legal for cooperation’s to ignore copyright and no one else.

Forking a software with pirated code is still retains its piracy unfortunately.

Stack overflow comments are CC BY-SA 4.0 licensed, specifically to avoid the issue of piracy. I doubt everyone copying from it is properly attributing to the source, but thats much different then pretending the license doesn’t exist at all for personal benefit.

AI is trained without restriction on available internet content, including github where many AGPL projects exist.

Disclosure allows for a copyright respecting kernel to exist, still allowing pirates to fork it and add their stolen code if they want.

Unfortunately the entire kernel is just setting itself up for future legal issues, like what originally handicapped BSD because AT&Ts copyright claim over Unix.

I could see locally hosted transcriptions being helpful, but its scary how willing some doctors were to throw confidential patient information at the black box spy company.

I believe it evolved from search engine algorithms, and so honestly this is probably one of the few helpful uses of AI.

Still ignores the ethics, but hey at least it isnt all smoke and mirrors

I see that, and with the new ZRAM/CRAM developments its reasonable (to me) to assume more optimisation is on the horizon.

Unfortunately the problem of novelty is very much a difficult area with AI, as inheritly it is defined by its training data - so finding a new optimisation (which tends to have the greatest performance benefits) is generally out of the question.

This leaves it to reshuffle is training data in ways that appear novel, like running Linux on a PS5, but that just means these options were already possible just unexploited.

I feel like that brings me to the same “benefits through adaptation” conclusion as you reached, but with less optimism. I’m confident enough that existing devs and humans are capable enough to find 99% of these adaptations independently, which leaves any AI devs stuck trend chasing well past an ideas expiration date.

Maybe Jesus will kiss me on the cheek and I’ll be able to perfectly render GTA 6 rtx in my mind.

But maybe we live in reality.

(science side of my opnion, LLMs are almost the same algorithm as a search engine in the background, making true novelty impossible. No one has yet created another novel OS like you describe for the AI companied to scrape, repackage, and resell yet, so its impossible for the LLMs to output such an OS.)

(The other other side of it is what do you even mean by a novel, stripped down, adapted OS? Like what has FOSS been developing for the past 40 years lmao? Anyone in the OS dev world knows usually the system itself is the most optimised part of the whole computer. Let’s shit on uncompressed 140gig games if we want to shit on someone)

Piracy is usually frowned upon in FOSS communities, regardless of the financial benefit (or lack of) to the pirate.

Usually disclosing piracy is required for the kernel, as unclearly licensed code weakens the entire foundation of the GPL it was built on, and opens the door to companies legally arguing to ignoring this license themselves.

This has the potential to handicap the entire FOSS community, and most consider that more important than a couple bugs some vibe coder desperately wants to introduce.

Communities are making these rules, so AI Bros keep moving communities

Awe sometimes its a mix of sad/cute how bad AI kiddies want to be devs.

They just want to hang with the cool kids, without any of the effort required to get there.

Technically maybe they ran the make command?

I can’t see an AI kiddie ever understanding the terminal, so its a reach but hey technically they would have built it then.

I could say I built arch the other day, and LLVM, and cmake.

😟

I would assume most people would agree that a short disruption in the chocolate supply chain is probably worth a couple thousand lives yea

Its not like abuse is intrinsic to AI nor chocolate, but not fighting back against shiity rich people is what got us here, so I’d be surprised if it got us out.

That is a good point and I agree, people might get lazy with AI but thats doing a disservice to the same people who were lazy without it tbh.

The existing devs haven’t changed and there’s no reason to believe AI will change them more than anything else going on.

Yeah but its different killing a kid to inherit an Xbox vs buying a basket from a small busniss owner. So there’s some nuance to it.

Mass copyright infringement proping up majority of the US economy during a self-induced recession is probably on the more nuanced end if you ask me, not Jesus’ second coming (or electricities second coming, or the next PDF, or any other buzzword you need)

Yeah but what if you care about AI ethics?

Slop is multifaceted

Thats really cool.

Is there any reason you chose grafana over home assistant?

I’m just setting uo a similar system myself, but I never even had the idea to use grafana for it

Yeah wait how would you have read only RAM?

Loaded on boot for the OS I suppose?

Probably nice for running TV boxes off even less RAM than they’re already starved for lmao

Honestly though CPU processing is going to add almost no latency at all.

Almost all latency is sending to the RAM itself, so if you can compress it in a CPU cache before sending it, its nearly free RAM space.

Also systems are fucked fast these days you could probably make something responsive in pure python - other than millisecond timing scenarios like medical and audio stuff