• Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    tldr for anyone:

    They aren’t fixing it. fuck y’all.

    Also - it’s not a rootkit - it just loads at boot and has higher privileges than the userspace that you can’t contr… oh. it’s a rootkit. They don’t want you to call it that though. It’s not cancer… it’s a growth.

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        1 year ago

        Funnily enough that’s how a lot of modern cheats work. it’s on a separate box. Good luck catching that automatically vanguard. Hard to out-ring the hardware layer.

        If it’s not server based detection it’s exploitable.

        I’m not in that line of work but make no mistake if it hasn’t been yet: a cheat vector will probably involve patching the anti cheat software or attacking how it communicates.

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            Yep, this is what I was referencing in other responses. Purely from a solution perspective it is positively the ultimate “get bent” from the cheat community. Add in some randomness and suddenly there’s zero difference between a ‘good session’ and scripting.

            Next up: sorry you don’t have xyz brand mice you can’t play our games. Consumers get forced to buy shit they don’t want or need and meanwhile the cheat / hack community release a patch to emulate it.

            It’s the same old cat and mouse game. There are solutions - but a rootkit isn’t it.

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    I’m dual booting windows and linux and I’m only using Windows for applications I can’t get to run on Linux. If I’m installing Vanguard on Windows, could that be a safety concern for my Linux partition? Since I have no personal data on Windows, I wouldn’t mind installing it there, as long as it’s not an issue for my linux partition

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    Stop stealing our CPU cycles for high risk rootkits and start mitigating and detecting cheating on the server.

    It’s that easy.

    I stopped playing games that want this bullshit. Don’t need that shit in my life.

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    The “distributions” argument always smells like bullshit. Developers actually interested on supporting Linux usually stick to one or two distros of their choice. (Typically Ubuntu.)

    Beyond that: I don’t play LoL, but the fact that they need such an aggressive rootkit as anti-cheat hints poor game design. As in, why are your players so eager to cheat?

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      Typical for a group of people that probably dedicated their whole careers to Windows. Could have just put it plainly that they don’t want to pay engineers that have the skills to do this on Linux.

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    Good riddance, spent several years hooked to League. That being said, the fragmentation argument is bullshit, they could ship a read-only container in a flatpak and it’d run everywhere.

    Kernel level is a huge risk and it doesn’t guarantee anything, especially in the age of Ai cheats and network mitm cheats

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      You can’t do shit with flatpak as a kernel level anti cheat.

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        That’s the point. A read only container to keep low hanging fruit at bay, and flatpak to distribute without having to repackage to every distro under the sun.

        I don’t fuck with the game, the game doesn’t fuck with my system.

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          That doesn’t protect the game in any way, that’s the issue. If you don’t fuck with it, it doesn’t mean that everyone else doesn’t as well.

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    My main issue with this blog post is that rather than properly addressing concerns, they make fun of them.

    It’s not a rootkit, journalists just spread misinformation for clicks

    Why is it not a rootkit, then??