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  • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    California and West Coast separatism is most strongly advocated by Russian agents seeking to weaken the US.

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      2 days ago

      I’m not Russian at all and I want to separate because all I get from the federal union is taxation without representation. I’m tired of subsidizing failed religious extremists. It’s abundantly clear that there is no rule of law at the federal level, and I would sooner die than bend the knee to a king.

      Edit: and our homegrown Russian asset Jill Stein has never once mentioned balkanization. I just don’t believe your accusation, it doesn’t seem to be based in reality.

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          17 hours ago

          May I ask what your native language is? It’s plainly obvious that it’s not English of American dialect.

          (I don’t mean this question in an adversarial way, I’m trying to understand the point you’re trying to make.)

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            17 hours ago

            I think they’s perfectly understandable and their links directly discuss Russia funding Californian separatism. The only error’s pluralizing “coverage”.

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              17 hours ago

              How the fuck did you see this within a minute of me sending it? I wasn’t replying to you.

              • Aatube@kbin.melroy.orgOP
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                17 hours ago

                i’m the OP lol

                i get reply notifs and i happened to just finish replying to someone else

                and at least on mbin there’s a bell icon and i think that can customize notifications for anyone?

                edit: anyone meaning yourself the one logged in of course

          • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
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            17 hours ago

            Lol. I just have a writing style that I use. It can be considered eclectic with a mix of various influences. The pluralized word is a buffy “whedonesque” influence.

            But the point is that Russia has been running alternative warfare efforts and cyber stuff for a long time. They stoke various movements and invent ideas and spread them with bots and shills. Basically anything that strengthens Russian imperialism and weakens or fractures NATO.

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        7 hours ago

        Sincere question as a foreigner, is there any basis to this “Jill Stein is a Russian asset” thing other than the nature of FPTP voting resulting in the royally fucked-up US two-party system?

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          17 hours ago

          Very much yes, we literally do not have laws restricting “donations” and “fundraising” for politicians here. I say this as someone who (embarrassingly) voted for her when I was young and uninformed many many years ago because I liked the headlines her party platform pushed. I am not sober enough to spam you with news articles at the moment but please feel free to bug me again tomorrow. If you do some of your own reading please tell me where you heard it and I will provide context as well.

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        As a Russian, honestly these are all sorts of shit with no practical difference for us.

        Except for Alaska, some people think it shouldn’t have been sold. And 0.7 mln total population is (far) less than Crimea.

        That aside, a confederacy (I guess some other word would be better) of the old US and some more autonomous things, like, for example, California, would possibly be a stabilizer.

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      2 days ago

      Damn. That just made me realize that the most effective military strategy against the US is to pit us against ourselves.

      • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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        No, you don’t get it, the US has so excelled in pitting others against each other to emerge as one victor, than it’s bringing the thing home. So you are going to weaken yourselves by making a quarreling mess of the old system, then it imploding and some nominally democratic and free new system taking over. Probably simultaneously trying to nuke half of the rest of the world.

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          11 hours ago

          Nazis, Communists, Socialists, Terrorists. The US ran out of enemies and started to fight itself. It hurt itself in it’s confusion.

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        1 day ago

        It’s not really news, the Civil War has been one of the fiercest conflict in history.