The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.
The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.
The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.
The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.
Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.
Just when I feel like dystopian news can’t really disturb me anymore…
Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all…
How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:
A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target’s family, if not everyone in the apartment building.
Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.
Murdered. Not killed, murdered.
Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn’t murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.
Murder.
the word “kill” is typically used in regards to warfare, not murder, so I’m not sure why you would say in this instance that it was written as though it wasn’t an act of war.
I think assassinated is the appropriate term here as it’s politically motivated.
Let me fix the headline - Israel commits more state sponsored terrorist attacks in neighbouring countries.
10 assassinations of relatively innocent people simultaneously. Straight out of Walter white’s playbook when he went full villain.
They aren’t innocent, they are knowingly creating a devastating weapon of mass destruction for a regime who has declared that they intend to use it. While I don’t support this sort of unprovoked attack, I can’t get too worked up over the demise of literally mad scientists.
I too find Boeing engineers and other factory workers valid targets for murder. Nice finding a fellow.
I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.
You have been playing too much rainbow six. There are no good guys in the halls of power looking after us.
There are only the rich fucks over here and the rich fucks over there pulling the levers of power.
There is no “international authority”. It’s all big stick politics out there. It’s like trying to go after a corporation in the US. The “punishments” when they break the law are fines, if that, and any admonishment not to fuck over the same person in the same way again.
Think about your boss shorting you $100. The “legal” process involves YEARS of waiting for a court date, a labor code interpreted heavily in favor of the employer, and at the end of the day, they get fines and maybe have to pay back what you rightfully earned in the first place.
Now think about what happens when you steal $100 from work. Immediate police involvement, possible arrest, absolute legal consequences even if you’re cleared years later, the presumption of guilt from everyone in society.
It’s even worse on a political stage. Nobody has the moral fortitude to step forward and fix shit because it’s broken. Everyone just waits around until the collective consciousness supports some sort of social consequence on the offender in question. That’s not even tying race or religion into the mix, which Israel loves to twist up into their particular brand of nationalism.
The civil world is simply too polite to call them out for all their shit. It’s a whole world full of chickenshit and I am tired of the stink.
Nobody has the moral fortitude to step forward and fix shit because it’s broken.
I bet this guy knows how to play Mario Kart.
It’s like that saying goes: “The law is the same for everyone, neither the king nor the beggar may sleep under a bridge.”
That’s BS. The king would never need to sleep under a bridge and if he chose to the police would be there to kick out the homeless people and make sure the king is safe for the night.
That’s the point of the saying. The law can be crafted to treat everyone equally, while only benefitting the king.
Edit: It’s why the billionaire media is so angry at the concept of “equity” and “wokeness”. Both terms help us beggars discuss our situation, and both might threaten the king’s throne, if we realize how simply the laws could be adjusted for what we want from them, rather than for what the king wants.
You mean like when Gerald Bull was killed? Surely an accident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Bull
Which is why I am sitting in disbelief that Iran could be so monumentally stupid.
There’s a rules-based international order. We make the rules, and guess who gives the orders.
Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.
Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.
Isreal is a terrorist state, the US is a terrorist state. Assasinating people or blowing them up on their way to work is terror. Blowing up pagers in homes while a child is bring it to daddy is terrorism.
Terrorism is internationally recognized as when a group or organization unaffiliated with a recognized government uses violence to achieve a political goal. “Terrorist state” is a contradiction in terms.
Netanyahu is leading a genocide and starting wars, all to avoid the regular democratic and legal process of Israel. Why are you carrying water for him?
This isn’t how anything works. No government cedes this kind of authority to anyone and trying to enforce it would lead to war even among allies.
The alternative is “drop bombs”.
Rounding up leaders and putting them on trial seems like a more civilized international approach than engaging in the same bloodthirsty, explosive, surprise-murder that is literally the whole problem here.
You don’t have the alternative to go into other people’s country and round up people because people will absolutely shoot any such folks then drop bomb’s on your cities and forces. It’s not my fault you are confused about what the options are.
I generally don’t believe Iran was on its way to building nuclear weapons, only nuclear energy. But, if we were to entertain for a moment the notion that they were, this is all pretty badass no?
But, since it’s not the case this whole thing is frightening. Israel is a terrorist state and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
Jesus they killed everyone in the apartment complex including their kids how is this not a war crime?!?
Under the rules of war, no. The rules of war does not consider civilians casualties a crime if they happen while targeting military or military support, like weapons manufacturing.
If it were, then you could just fire missiles at your enemies from the tops of apartment buildings and they couldn’t do anything about it. Yeah Hamas did do that and did make claims of war crimes whenever they got hit, but not actually a war crime. Because if it were it would encourage every military in the world to use human shields and every war becomes as horrible as the war in Gaza.
What did we say about based takes on Lemmy?
Where did it say that? Are you creating outrage just for the sake of outrage? What’s the benefit?
What is the endgame here? They certainly can’t be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?
I have gotten cynical to the point of assuming the “endgame” here is properly kicking off WW3, so that Trump gets an excuse to drop a nuke or two on an adversary.
“The last time we had a world war, we won it! We were the best - and we won it with our nukes, our big beautiful nukes - it’s really a shame we haven’t used them since, don’t you think? We ended the war by dropping 2 on Japan, and now Japan is our best friend. Why don’t we drop some nukes on Iran? Don’t we want them to be our friend?”
Also, wasn’t Trump the reason the largest non-nuclear bomb in the USA arsenal was first used in combat? The bomb that had never been deployed in the almost 15 years since it’s creation specifically because the US military thought it would create too many civilian casualties?
The same Trump that allegedly wanted to nuke hurricanes to disrupt them before they hit the US’s coast?
The dude just wants to play with the shiny toys and see things go “boom”. He has literally stated to his own biographer that
When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different."
I suppose it suits him just fine that Israel is now flirting with open warfare with their neighbors.
Or the evangelicals in Trump’s ear are trying to bring about the end of the world to kick off the rapture or some goofy ass psycho shit.
Yes, and he wants to drop a nuke so bad he cant STAND it
Well, I think Israel are horrible villains here, but I also think Iran might be a lot better off without the theocratic regime and with disarmed warfare capabilities. In a more ideal world, Iran would de-escelate and make amiccable relations with the west to avoid any future conflicts. In the world we actually live in, Israel is probably hankering for a hunk of that pie and will expand their borders.
The only difference between Israel and a terrorist organization is PR and budget.
And religion. Quite some Christians love Israel, no matter what, because the Bible. Yes, it’s a fantastic argument. And as long as the victims are muslims, they’ll support Israel. If you’re not disgusted by the wars in the old testament, why would you in present day?
How is this all normal and ok?
It’s not normal. It’s ok until the majority of America accepts what can really be done with that database Trump is having Palantir build.
More than just America need to stand against Israel.
Except we’re the purse, so if we truly oppose it, we can easily make it stop.
Money won’t stop a genocidal cult from nuking the planet.
Stopping the money and supply of arms sure might help.
i think the military has been using thiels palintir for at least 10 years already. TRump just made it more obvious, because hes a loudmouth. thiel loved to stay out of the spotlight of the news for many reasons. everytime he was in the news, its never is good for him.
Not just the military. I found out Palantir had a contract with my own city to develop and test their predictive policing technology until 2018. https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/27/17054740/palantir-predictive-policing-tool-new-orleans-nopd
The city banned predictive policing and facial recognition tech, then quietly lifted the ban and replaced it with a very concerning ordinance in 2022. https://thelensnola.org/2022/02/17/mayor-cantrell-moves-to-reverse-bans-on-facial-recognition-predictive-policing-and-other-surveillance-tech/
Then it came out that the city wasn’t even following the rules they had created in the sketchy ordinance. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/19/live-facial-recognition-police-new-orleans/
The private surveillance company using the facial recognition tech (which was created during the time Palantir was still under contract with the city, but is allegedly totally unrelated to Palantir 🙄) couldn’t keep providing the real time facial recognition tracking to city police bc WaPo exposed they were violating the ordinance. However, since it’s only a city ordinance and they’re a private company, they can still provide it to literally anyone else in the city (state police, federal agents, ICE, military).
They’ve already been doing a lot of shady shit to American citizens, and it’s naive to just trust that they won’t eventually start using these kinds of AI drone weapons on American soil.
red light cameras already using facial recognition, to catch would be “runners of red light”, LEO was already using PAlintr PRIOR TO trump announcing “all agencies must use palintir, to target democrats”
Can someone try blowing up their servers? That’d be nice.
The wrong Amazon is burning
It should be normal. People helping an evil state get nukes, deserve to die. Unfortunately what’s normal nowadays is sitting around fat and lazy and letting NK become a nuclear power.
The US gave Israel, an evil state, nuclear weapons. By your logic…
Europeans did the genocide and took over America, in a much larger scale. Israel is just a smaller copy cat. The fact USA exists justifies what Israel does.
No it doesn’t.
Truth is hard to swallow. Regardless, people are dying anyway.
Truth is hard to swallow
Apparently Israel’s cock is not
Equating Israel to USA in its right to exist is not swallowing its cock.
They are right. Except one problem still can be solved, the other not so much. Maybe a few centuries after now somebody will think of something. Slow demographic changes and more modern weapons, that stuff.
Appreciate your optimism that Israel is a solvable problem.
Yet they didn’t know about preparation for the October 7th attack?
Tinfoil hat mode: they let it happen to have a reason to raze Gaza to the ground.
(Sorry, that’s my “Bush did 9/11” moment)
No tinfoil needed, has it not been confirmed that Netanyahu was aware of the attacks and let them happen?
I wonder how many civilians Israel killed in the process. It’s probably a lot more than 0.
Proof?
This is state sanctioned mass murder. This is state terror attacks across a national border. This is so unethical and obviously illegal, I don’t know what else to say about it.
We need to distance ourselves from Israel. We need to stop giving them weapons. Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them, I am partially responsible, and this is not “ok”. I do not want to be doing this, I never wanted this…
Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them,
And we are giving millions in contracts to Palantir to help them create these nightmare AI projects with zero oversight.
Alex Karp’s biography makes it pretty clear he’s trying to spin this shit as every American’s patriotic duty to support, and no different than the Manhattan project (as if that’s something great to aspire to in the first fucking place) during WWII.
Just to play devils advocate, what circumstances is it legitimate for Israel to attack Iran?
Yeah, that’s cool.
Well I guess my opinion is that it’s essentially never “legitimate” to be the aggressor. Determining which party is the aggressor can sometimes be complicated, but it often boils down to this: which party is crossing the border?
In this case, I’m sure many would say that Iran took the first aggressive action by pursuing a nuclear program, but I have a few issues with that. First, Israel already has nuclear weapons, so surely that is an earlier provocation. Secondly, Iran still isn’t crossing the border, Israel was first to pull the trigger, and they pulled a lot of triggers (in Iranian territory). And finally, Israel and Iran have been in the process of forging nuclear treaties many times now, and nearly every time Israel has sabotaged the talks with provocative, often military actions, or they simply left the table - it seems clear to me that Israel does not want a nuclear deal, they will not accept any kind of compromise.
If that’s your metric, then I think Israel meets it. Iran has sponsored and directed non-state actors in Israel. These include both Hamas and Hezbollah. Additionally, Houthi militants have targeted Israeli civilian shipping.
state terror
Yeah, the ‘protocols of the elders of zion’ larpers dont do anything else
need to stop
I think it’s a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.
We let this get too far out of hand. The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.
I think it’s a few years late for purely negative action to be useful here.
I actually disagree with that. If we end the flow of weapons and funding to Israel, we’d see a totally different behavior from Israel within the week.
The question is: glass some LARPers, or world war 3? If the former is not on the table, the latter is inevitable.
And this part, you’re saying nuke them or else WW3? That rhetoric is as bad as theirs! If you can’t think of any other solutions, then please, don’t be part of the solution.
I hope your right, but i don’t know if they know how to stop,
- what a stupid fucking name
- why does Israel get to have nuclear weapons
- why does no one ask question 2
- Why is it ok for them to assassinate civilians?
Why not?
Daily on Lemmy there are thousands of calls to murder X or Y person who doesn’t agree with collectivist ideology.
Why would it be different for them?
Are they in the room with us right now?
Sure, just check the modlog, there is thousands of murder calls and violent action calls erased everyday. That’s the ones that get reported.
I feel comfortable saying no one here is surprised in the slightest by the level of violent discourse shared in here on Lemmy
Why does anyone get to have nuclear weapons?
Because once you have them, who’s going to try to take them away?
In 1994, Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia.
Typically, no one wants to die for stupid shit, especially when they are in the wrong. But when there is no consequences such as dying, a.k.a no nukes, why not go to war and take everything? There’s no morals between countries…unless enforced by nukes.
This is why I’m pro nuclear armament of all countries.
This is the dumbest possible position because it maximizes the chance that they are used. There is no reason to think mad working was likely amongst a few actors and it almost failed repeatedly. There is even less reason to suppose it scales.
If they do need to be used anyway, then it was perhaps for the best.
shut up
Your mod history tells me you aren’t worth knowing. Blocked.
yeah but if Israel gets them the countries they keep bombing should also get to have them. the country that jerks off to 2A somehow doesn’t think so.
Iran is a terrorist state run by lunatics. Them and Israel having them is even worse than Israel having them.
should?
Wait what
yes. the fact that Iran doesn’t have nuclear weapons and Israel and the US still went after then is proof that they should have had nuclear weapons. because guess what would happen if they did. Israel would have stayed the fuck away.
Clearly not working, Israel and the us have them nukes and that’s not stopping Iran and Palestine from retaliation
Or do you see them staying the fuck away?
Because I certainly don’t
lol what. yeah the parties that don’t have the nukes do retaliate when the parties with the nukes are the aggressors. Iran didn’t start a war. Palestine isn’t even involved in a war that’s just genocide.
You are clearly seeing having nukes has no effect on retaliation, so why would you insist on it?
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They are targeting anyone with a degree in nuclear physics. Someone posted that his colleague was killed and they had nothing to do with the enrichment program. It’s murder.
Who is someone? What is the proof of the murder?
I need names and addresses! For… Reasons unrelated to any lethal plans
Sir we all know that if you just want to post fake bullshit you can just say so, it’s not illegal
So no proof then? Complete bullshit, man
Logging, fishing, hunters, steel, mining and roofing workers are the most high risk professions in all the planet
About 92% of the fatalities are men, about 2 men die per hour just by working on the more dangerous professions in the whole world
🫡
Proof?
Sure
You can go to the bureau of labor statistics website, there is a section related to fatal work injuries:
There is also the national safety council website
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/work/industry-incidence-rates/most-dangerous-industries/
They have the aggregate for worker injuries by sex, you can just filter the ones:
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/work/industry-incidence-rates/worker-injuries-and-illnesses-by-sex/
The bureau also has specific reports for this
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/cwc/fewer-women-than-men-die-of-work-related-injuries-data-show.pdf
It has reached the news, from time to time, this one article is old but still stands
The count you can get by using the latest 2023 census data from the bureau
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf
Worst offender is China, their latest years birth policies have All but skewed that ratio
https://www.globaldata.com/data-insights/macro-indicators/the-gender-ratio-of-china-325417/
Wait these genocidal idiots really called it “Operation Narnia”?
wtf
vomits on ground
This would be disgusting if it was just a normal act of war, of killing soldiers and calling it a cute name like this to disguise how any war is a tragedy, but there is a much more serious red flag here about Israel and Israeli society, this shows a blatant disregard for the humanity of these SCIENTISTS by assassinating them and making a joke out of it about sending them to dream land. Not only is this murder, the motive is a blatant lie, Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon that is undeniable and unarguable based on the overwhelming evidence.
If you still think that Israel and the US aren’t coming for science, freedom of thought and peace in general you are a fool. I live in the heart of this dying empire, the US, and let me tell you, they are coming for you if you are a scientist, run or fight, either is fine but pick one soon before it is too late.
Meanwhile Iran is always promising to ethnically cleanse Jews from the Middle East constantly chanting “death to Israel” and they call what they do “Operation True Promise” when targeting civilian population centers while saying to Israeli civilians “Either you must choose ‘gradual death’ in hellish life in shelters or save your lives from the 24-hour missile rain and flee as soon as possible from the lands usurped by your ancestors, so that you may survive.” I guess that’s a sign of a healthy society?
There’s also Operation Rising Lion. Iran’s flag used to have a Lion on it. Israel doesn’t seem to want to destroy Iran unlike Iran’s “True Promise” to wipe Israel off the map. But you can take “Rising Lion” to mean they want Iran to rise from being a country run by authoritarian religious nutjobs.
These are some really wild and generalizing claims about Iran and Iranian people and honestly you should be ashamed of yourself.
As someone on the left in the US I want to make it clear I think you are behaving in a pathetic way and yet I would never draw conclusions about Israelis or Israel the way you just casually did about Iranians even though Israel is committing a Genocide Of Palestinians. There are many Iranians with a wide variety of views on Israel, but no… they do not desire a genocide of Israelis the way Israelis desire a genocide of Palestinians that is the ugly truth and yet even as I perceive it I know there is nothing inherent to Israelis that makes them incapable of seeing the humanity of Palestinians because I know all too well how easy it is to fall into the same awful mindset as someone from the US.
This is ALL a choice about how we flatten other groups into simple narratives. The most important thing about leftism to me is never forgetting that.
I come from a war-like society, I can respect the call to war when it is done out of a genuine desire to defend what you hold dear, Israel’s call to war is not a call to war it is a call to genocide and it reimagines the atrocities of US colonization reflected and reanimated into a modern middle eastern conflict. I will not stand for it, I will resist the dehumanization of all people, Iranians, Palestinians, Israelis, Muslisms, Jews… we are people alike.
Also there is NO evidence that Iran has been pursuing producing a nuclear weapon for… decades?
You literally just posted paragraphs of bold text with wild and generalizing claims about Israel and Israeli people. Someone needs to be ashamed of themselves here, and maybe exercise a little self awareness?
I am clearly talking about the Ayatollah regime’s officially stated goals, not the Iranian people. I’m also mentioning the opportunity for Iranians to have a better government. It’s obviously up to the Iranian people if they want a better government, I think we all know at this point that regime change has to come from within a country.
As someone on the left
Since you’re someone on the left, you you seemed to have picked up the nasty habit of feeling entitled to speak on behalf of other people. If you’re not Iranian please don’t act like you know what’s best for them. That’s a very “white man’s burden” mentality that’s become prevalent in the left.
The oppressive authoritarian regime that’s ruling over Iran has been weakened. It’s up to the Iranian people what they want to do next. It’s not up to me or you.
The story of Israel is the story of the US in many ways, and the same species of denial reflected, shattered and mutated into a new context with different pre-existing histories doesn’t change the nature of this, that it is the same old process of colonialism violently denying itself. I recognize the primal scream because I have shamefully participated in it in the past cycles of this story, not because I actually understand myself as impervious to its violent impulse.
This has nothing to do with religion, any -ism, any broad category of people, it is just the nature of how colonialism was designed to divide us.
This isn’t university, you can talk normal here.
Are you telling me this isn’t a wizard school?! Wait
I understood that comment. I legit don’t know what you were saying in the previous one.
