IMHO it’s definetly a hard break with the past design.
But it looks more mature and not as ‘shy’.
It moved the back/forward arrows to the top of the screen where I can barely reach. Why ?
yeah back/forward refresh & share should be at the bottom of this menu
I like it. :-) It always amazes me, that so many people who like free and open software, are so negative about changes. If you really want things your way, then support the software, ad your skills, pay for it, so that the best people can work on it. A little more gratitude for peoples free work, to provide you with great and free software, would be in order.
Sorry to those who made this but I absolutely hate it. The previous UI wasn’t the best but at least it was much more compact than this. Literally ads no meaningful feature while increasing taps needed for features and waste screen space.
Firefox mobile UX sucks.
Try select multiple bookmarks and then move them. Cant.
Save a bookmark and get a lingering notification that doesnt swipe away.
Download a file? Same.
This menu changes nothing except for some reason taking away the new tab menu option.
I dont mind a larger menu but what was chosen as huge and small makes little sense.
Agree 100%.
I still can’t figure out how to add a shortcut to the new tab page lmao
Wish they just get the ui back to how it was like in the kitkat days
Chrome keeps my most used sites as suggestions. Firefox has massive tiles for most recent bookmarks. It is painfully inadequate at the simple things, it is only decent as a somewhat more private alternative to the big tech cancers.
I hate it. It used to be two taps to open a new tab.
Now it’s four taps:
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Open the menu
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Close the menu
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Open tabs
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[+]
My muscle memory ain’t going nowhere.
In latest Nightly there is a + sign right of the address field. So, it is only 1 tap now.
In defense of Mozilla on this one, the new tab button has been in tabs for years now, and it kinda makes sense to be there.
If they’re trying to streamline menus, getting rid of a redundant button is a good start.
You can long press the tab icon to open a new tab. Still 2 taps.
IMO 2 taps is already one too many
Or tap the tab icon and then the plus icon in the bottom right.
Although I did mainly use the menu method. Will just have to change now.
Or just tap + when you enable the toolbar redesign in Nightly.
I miss the toolbar that was experimented with for a while in Nightly that had both the new tab button and the forward button visible at all times. But apparently other people hated it.
I still have that, but with the tab bar.
Edit:
Ah neat, is that on a tablet? Maybe it’s decided that my phone screen is too small.
Phone acting as tablet. Settings “smallest width” to 600dp or more triggers tablet mode on Android, which changes certain UI elements to, in my opinion, make more sense on average near 7" smartphones. At least for me as I am a landscape-first user.
So, since I already screwed up my homescreen layout by toggling this now, I’ll give you screenshots to compare between 423 (smallest in regular settings) and 705dp (what I use). 423 on left, 705 on right.
Took me longer than I anticipated, but anyway:
Sorry for the JPEG, original was 18MB.
Notice the difference in keyboard layout, and 3 button navigation with app icons and app drawer.
You should be able to click the image to open it, at least on LemmyUI.
I appreciate the effort! (Indeed looks like that wasn’t quick to put together.) And yes, that looks like you get a bunch more controls on your wider phone.
you can still open a tab with two taps
I completely forgot there was a new tab entry in that menu
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Avid nightly user; I’m just starting to get used to it, and I think I it’s better for most users, but I need to regular use the translate feature which doesn’t automatically translate the languages that I need. So that’s a few extra taps for me, and honestly it adds up.
It was mentioned her that their should be some kind of customization, and I would be happy to lose a little bit more of the background to have the translate button on the main menu
Customization would definetly help with such use cases, e.g. letting users replace lesser used buttons like Share or Home with Translation or Addons Menu.
They half assedly implemented it without porting over all features, which is annoying but definitely the Mozilla way.
but its only on nightly though, right?
And Beta.
I just changed it back right when I figured out how.
This is my day 2 of trying Firefox on Android (coming from Opera), so it’s not like I was already used to it.
About Firefox Nightly -> Tap the FF logo a few times -> Secret settings -> Enable menu redesign off
Thank you. I don’t hate the big buttons, but they put the most important ones on the top out of reach frommy thumb. Dumbest decision ever.
If you are not interested in testing the new features why are you using nightly version?
Release doesn’t even have tab bar yet.
Beta does, but only has the new menu and homepage doesn’t count as tab like on desktop and doesn’t support DoH, like on desktop.
Nightly is most feature-complete.
But I’ll have to figure out how to check existing and report new bugs. Search may not work when I hit enter, opening links with Firefox just opens the homepage, only when I click back does it actually open the link, screenshots sometimes don’t work, but only after I go to tab menu and then back, and the bottom-most thing in homepage is cut-off, so I use the stories as padding (might be related to custom high system-wide DPI).
i don’t mind it, i think it looks good - BUT i just want a tablet ui with a tab bar T_T
For whatever it’s worth, you can enable a movable tab bar in Firefox Nightly for Android.
This will force the tab and omnibar to the top of the screen, however.
Don’t forget this too
Woah I was literally just commenting that I miss that expanded toolbar layout. Unfortunately that option isn’t visible yet in my Nightly, but this indicates that it might not be gone forever, awesome!
Edit: Just enabled Secret Settings and now I have back my beloved toolbar! It’s a bit chunkier than it used to be, but still neat.
Edit 2: ah, and no back/forward buttons, that’s a shame. I’d prefer those over the bookmark button.
Yep, bookmark feels like something no one needs with any regularity.
In the Secret Settings it was named something like “Composable toolbar”, so perhaps we’ll get the ability to customise the contents later.
It’s just because it’s the toolbar rewritten in Jetpack Compose rather than the old one which was written with XML and used a custom parser.
Ah! That makes sense
Neat! seems I need to update!
There’s also some new secret settings for the new toolbar.
Ah! That may be why I don’t see it 😓
I want to import/export bookmarks to HTML and view page source/inspect element in addition to that
You can add
view-source:before the URI to view the source.Oh, that’s nice. Thanks!
There is also an extension for this
Nightly has this so I assume it will come to Firefox sooner or later.
hm, interesting; i assume fennec is based on release android firefox? i wish nightly had an f-droid release :/ i know i can download the apk but
If the part you dislike is having to manually download updates, then this might be a solution: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.marmaro.krt.ffupdater
ooh awesome i’ll look. yeah i didn’t mind doing the apks for beta or focus but nightly is updated (well duh :P) every night so i just didn’t want to keep remembering.
It’s good but slow. Though I may just be unreasonable.
FFUpdater can keep it updated for you. Sort of a browser-specific app store.
i just tried and it works great; i had accrescent for ironfox but i like this because i can also get rid of the play store for vivaldi.
Nightly has multiple app icon too. It’s gimmicky but here.
It’s already not only in Nightly, but Beta too, so probably soon in release.
I just wish they’d make it customizable to replace the home button with extension menu, new tab or remove it completely. That home button has been useless for me.
Absolutely, never really got how its existence was justified from the beginning but especially after tabbed browsing became a thing
Home button? Where? I don’t see one.
Do you mean the navigation bar at the bottom? That can be changed in OS settings.
I’m not a fan. It’s probably friendlier to an average user, but I feel like the information and actionable item density is much lower than before.
Not going to lie, I do not like it.
I prefer menus over panels.
I like the concept. It’d be nice to customise it a bit but I prefer it as more legible / bigger, plus in a decent location for my thumbs.
The old menu was unnecessarily cramped and to one side. This change has potential but isn’t quite right yet.
It also does make much more sense if you move the tab bar to the bottom to complement it (doable.in settings menu).
Looks more touch focused and friendly. Not necessarily bad on a mobile device. This might be rare occasion I don’t mind a rsadical change done by Mozilla. Haven’t actually tried it yet, just looking at the photo…
Assuming that’s the menu that is accessed from the tab bar, my first thought is that it doesn’t have everything the current one has. Where are “find in page” and “desktop site”?
That’s right. These are missing because I opened it from the home screen. Here is a better screenshot:
I think I like the current one better from a usability perspective because it opens where I can access the whole thing with my thumb without having to stretch. Looks like that might not be the case here but we’ll see I suppose
I don’t hate it, but I would REALLY like to be able to move those buttons around. Refresh, share, and forward are hands-down my most used buttons. Having to chase them up feels tedious.
Similarly sign in (or, I’m guessing account once you do sign in) does not need that much real estate.
Finally I’d love to swap Passwords with a shortcut to my password manager of choice (in my case, Bitwarden)
I appreciate the more modern take, but I think it could use some refinement or customization options, similar to dragging things around your toolbar in FF desktop.
I like it when buttons can be reached entirely by my thumb without overstretching it. Feel like anything that isn’t that is a design failure.
