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Firefox says it will keep supporting uBlock Origin even as Microsoft Edge and other Chromium browsers phase it out under Manifest V3.
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If they ever stop supporting it I will continue to use the last version to support it, any website that breaks compatibility with this Firefox version can get fucked.
That’s a significant security risk, unfortunately.
If that happens, I’d suggest a fork with a built in blocker, one that still gets security patches from upstream Firefox.
Exactly. Ublock origin is notable only for being part of 0 ad companies and 100% trustworthy. The blocking lists are universal. If it’s built into the browser, you’re golden
Well…
With a fork, one is very dependent on the browser dev. Not just on their benevolence, but on their security practices too. And on them pulling in upstream security patches, quickly.
TBH, this is why I do finance stuff on vanilla Firefox. I love browser forks, I really do, but I’m a bit more cautious with them, too.
i mean… blocking lists are universal, but the other features ublock offers are not - i’m making heavy use of ublock’s dynamic filtering panel and per-site switches. one important thing i use ublock for is to whitelist which sites get javascript permissions and to get rid of remote fonts to make pages more readable. those features need manifest v2.
if firefox drops manifest v2 and you’re relying purely on those inbuilt blocking lists then you might as well use the manifest v3 version of ublock without seeing a difference, right?
Librewolf would probably still support it
librewolf does not have much developer capacity to maintain such heavy patches. you may remember some chromium forks telling they will maintain a patch when google completely removes this API from chromium, but it seems none of them will follow through. I can’t really fault them because it is likely a gargantuan task. but I’ll fault them for claiming something they (should) have known they can’t deliver. but my point is if vivaldi and others can’t keep it, how could librewolf?
I’ll just spend my reading time reading more books than I do now. Forcing me to look at ads will not work.
wait for 4g books that serve you unskippable ads
I’d probably go retro, use something like Dillo and stick to more classic webpages. Or go full Gopher/Gemini.
as a websev, you’re gonna have a bad time
I can’t imagine using the web without firefox and ublock. Even the cookie consent popups are awful.
Seriously. I clear my cookies on Firefox exit because I don’t want their shit on my computer if it isn’t needed.
This would cause me to see them every single damn time.
Yeah, the user experience of “just wipe cookies on browser exit” is a lot better than “have a million prompts all over zillions of sites”.
However, regarding “every single damn time”…some sites can have their “do you want cookies” popup just blocked by the Firefox I still don’t care about cookies addon. It’s not a solution for every site out there, but it’ll get a lot of them.
It’s also possible to use another extension, Behind the Overlay on some sites. This does require a click, so manual action, but it tries to identify “pop-over” content that covers up the browser window and remove it with that click. It’s really intended as a more-general solution to “pop-over” stuff, but cookie pop-ups often take this form and can be dismissed.
You can also just enable one of the “Cookie notices” lists in your ublock settings, no need for another extension.
Ublock Lite still works in Chrome (and it still blocks YouTube ads, not sure about cookie popups), but you get no control over the filters. Just a slider with some presets to choose from. So while better than nothing, just stick with Firefox.
Now that MV2 is dead in chrome, i wouldn’t bet on YouTube ads being able to be blocked by UBlock Lite for much longer.
LibreWolf, WaterFox and Vivaldi
…may you elaborate?
LibreWolf has it pre-installed and is Open-source. It worked on waterfox an Open-source fork of Firefox, last time I tried.
As for Vivaldi I guess use Brave instead.
Brave is the money generator of a far right hate group. Fuck Brendan Eich, fuck their ad replacement scam, fuck everything Brave.
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No, you should forget brave it’s yet another piece of shit chrome knock off. Just like the rest. It ain’t immune. It can kick and scream but either the entire project dies or they bend the knee eventually.
Not to defend Brave (seriously, don’t use Brave), but it has built-in ad-blocking.
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So, I can finally point and laugh at the people who were saying that the manifest V3 thing was a non issue because their ad blocker was still working ?
Google is locking down Android too!
Instead of uBlock Origin rather use AdNauseam. It’s basically uBlock Origin, but it “clicks” on the blocked ads so the ad networks still have to pay website owners.
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Alternate headline: Firefox is now the only browser worth using.
And in any case, lumping Firefox as one browser is disingenuous. There are numerous Firefox forks, just like every other major browser is in fact a Google Chromium fork.
Pihole. Doesn’t solve everything, but I’m currently blocking ads from just over a half million domains.
Help us, Ladybird devs. You’re our only hope.
When is it comming?
They’re hoping to have an alpha release this year on limited platforms.
I’ve been following the dev progress. As it turns out, making a browser is not easy.
For everyone using Firefox, are you using it with microG or some type of sandbox? Even when going private, you can’t download it unless you have Google Play services on mobile. Ive tried to see if it works without google and unfortunately it dosent. If that’s the case for mobile, then technically we really shouldn’t be using it either.
I use Fennec from F-Droid, a Firefox fork.
I really wanted to use Fennec but its so freaking slow
In what sense? Fennec feels identical to any other Android browser for me…
There are those of us who are using Firefox on the desktop. No Google Play anywhere in sight. And on the phone I am one of the odd ones using the Gecko engine based native Sailfish OS browser.
Thats what I do too. But for mobile, currently I’m using DuckDuckGo until I find something that can work right on this phone. The default browser for this phone is garbage and Iv been trying to find an alternative since then.
How’s Aloha Browser for you in case of mobile?
Hmmm I just downloaded it and so far its fine. 🤔Im gonna give it a shot and try it out
Sometimes I think it was a mistake to let the programs we primarily use to view text and images become bloated virtual machines that execute megabytes of arbitrary code with every page load.
Well, like many other things: it’s not so much a “we” as it is a “them”.
But maybe we should reboot the whole navigation thing?
Cool, but why did they have to name it that?
It came before bard was renamed to gemini. Kind of like people who were referred to as Isis before you know, Isis.
Oh. I don’t get your example, by the way (who those original “people” were).
Some people knew people named Isis bro. I did.
Hmm, interesting. That makes me think of someone whose last name was literally “Gay” before gayness as a news headliner broke out, I think right around the turn of the century. Her family changed their name to “Gray” as a result.
I wonder if a name change might have been or even might be helpful for that person you know.
The best extension :)
+ a mediocre browser
What is mediocre about it? What would be an example of a good browser, and what are the differences?
Nothing is mediocre about it. All of the “best” browsers are based on FF’s Gecko engine. Maybe they have complaints about Mozilla or the weird stuff they’ve been doing with FF recently. But the actual Gecko engine is solid, and it’s what all the best browsers are based on.
im an old web dev and im stuck in my shitty ways which includes not liking how ff is the only effing browser that takes extra effort to make the front-end look and function correctly. tbh, i do use ff on android 99% of the time, but ff on desktop breaks too many sites if you have any inkling of ff’s security turned on.
im not wrong, you all are just fanboys
No, you’re a mediocre browser
And his mom is too
If it goes… I don’t know what I’ll do.
Go out and touch grass probably.
Get a hobby.
Perfect my molotov recipe.
Come on, the meme format requires you to put another normal sentence at the end right after the provocative one lol.
I meant… Robot molotov. With AI. And cloud. And blockchain integration.
I don’t know what I’m doing I hope that will suffice.
Wait what meme format.
I’m just messing around. I was thinking of a 4-panel comic in which a person does chores, like vacuuming, handling laundry, and the 2nd-to-last panel is something like, “Dread one’s short existence,” before finishing with another humdrum task in the style of the other panels. I can’t find the comic despite trying, unfortunately!
Hahaha, ok you’re referencing a comic? I was kinda nonplussed. I also mess around constantly so that’s cool! :)
I don’t know that one tho.
I found it! It’s 6 panels, not 4: https://jptds.blogspot.com/2016/04/dont-let-existential-dread-set-in.html
I, too, respond to comments several weeks later. TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME.
No but seriously, the inbox notifications scare me. I go through them once a month and answer to all three hundred comments in one sitting, it works for me, OK?
Edit: hahahaha! great comic! :)
A misleading title shilling for Firefox. Brave has full support and it won’t even remove it nor does it actually need it as it has its own in-house fully hard coded adblock that doesn’t need Google services whatsoever.
How many braveshillings did you get for this comment?
We should introduce Manifest V4 that would undo all damage V3 did.
Or support the Ladybird browser engine.
I like what they’re trying to do, but damn, launching an entirely new browser engine in the '20s is a heavy lift.
ladybird is vibe-rust-slop now
This is why they create good tests. You can look at resources, speed etc. But anything is better than Google Chrome because that is how they got V3 to begin with.
