• moopet@sh.itjust.works
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    safe from the madness and censorship of the fediverse.

    Sounds like they explicitly don’t want to federate. Unless it’s a parody site, I guess.

    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s entirely possible it’s a spectacularly successful trolling mission by one person.

      Seriously, look how many people are up in arms about an instance with one user.

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    good thing they want to be free from the fediverse, because the fediverse should definitely free from this shit.

    defederate fascists.

  • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I hate how maga people call themselves patriots. They are the most unamerican people ever. Everything they stand for is in direct opposition to the America ideals.

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    Okay, and? The whole point of the fediverse is that everyone gets a voice. It’s good to see more people adopting it too, even conservatives. It’ll be less of an echo chamber that way.

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      Let’s not paradox of tolerance this place into a Nazi bar

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      yeah but we’ve seen with other social media platforms what happens when the conservatives come knockin’. Once the wave of conservative boomers and social outcasts comes the grifters will follow and it’s the end of the platform.

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        That’s due to algorithms. And again, you could just defed them.

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        Couldn’t be further from the truth.

        The fediverse is likely to split off into different sections. Some will allow people to say what they want, others won’t.

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      And then in a couple years lemmy goes the way of reddit and suddenly were flooded with right wing bots and bad actors spamming lemmy with misinformstion and hate and they scream and cry whenever you try to do anything about it.

      Leftists deserve our own space on the internet.

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        Do you realize Reddit is a monolith platform and not defederated? The things happening to Reddit and other centralized platforms is exactly the reason why Fediverse exist in the first place. Those problems are what Fediverse is designed to solve. It’s surprising to see people considering Lemmy as some kind of leftwing alternative to Reddit. It’s not.

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        The day it happen we’ll just have to defederate them, which other social networks can’t.

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        Leftists deserve our own space on the internet.

        That’s not what the fediverse is for. The fediverse isn’t to be your own personal haven. However, you can use the fediverse to make a leftist instance and defederate/ban right wingers as you please.

        I haven’t been on Reddit since the API fallout, but I rarely ever saw right wingers, nevermind bots.

        Some of these platforms (notably xitter) have algorithms to farm rage

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          Oh you saw bots, they were everywhere. You just didnt realize you were interacting with bots. At least once a week I found a bot account trying to steer conversations on reddit.

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            What I do remember was being banned from half the subs because I posted a pro vaccine comment in the nonewnormal sub. And it wasn’t conservative subs that were banning me. It was usually leftist, slightly leftist or even completely apolotical subs with leftist moderation. And then they broadened their ban list to include pro life subreddits and anti-pitbull activism subreddits as well.

            I did not get an impression that it was a right-wing site.

            Twitter always was a cesspit as well, even before Elon. It was filled with leftist dreamSMP and k-pop stans who’d doxx you over misnaming a haircut in Animal Crossing. When elon bought it, it just turned into a right wing cesspit. A cesspit is still a cesspit.

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      It’ll be less of an echo chamber that way.

      It’ll be defederated and just create new echo chambers.

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        If enough free-speech instances get defederated, then it will be the ones defederating that are left with an echo chamber.

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        Not everyone kneejerks defederation in this case. A lot of places just defed csam

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      My honest reaction exactly, and I have to say I feel like just being on lemmy for a little bit it does feel like a bit of a left wing eco chamber, which isn’t necessarily that bad and it makes sense due to alot of left wing people migrating from twitter and the likes, idk it’s just something I’ve noticed and wanted to mention

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        Yeah. I don’t usually mind either too much. I think there is a problem when you have the likes of !christianity@lemmy.world being downvote brigaded to the point that it actually is unfairly balancing the posts due to the slim minority of Christians on here. Most lefties I find on here are cool, though. Just a slim minority of them, like the ones who get offended at you saying “bro”

        Also, having a Trumpet on lemmy is infinitely better than the loli porn instances

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          think there is a problem when you have the likes of !christianity@lemmy.world being downvote brigaded to the point that it actually is unfairly balancing the posts due to the slim minority of Christians on here.

          Are you and the other mods aware that you can see who downvotes, and potentially ban systematic downvoters? That’s a topic that is regularly debated, but I guess in your case it could be useful?

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    I can’t believe there’s this many people talking about an instance with one user.

    Debating the big issues here guys.

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    I would support this if they didn’t just ban/censor people they disagreed with.

    We definitely need more open spaces for discussion on the internet.

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      We definitely need more open spaces for discussion on the internet.

      Not with fascists.

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        Not with fascists.

        The endgame of this is immediately labeling any person showing the slightest signs of a different opinion as a fascist.

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          What is transgenderism? I googled it and the top result for that word is a link to a religious website.

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              Don’t dance around it like a coward. Say what you mean. I’m an adult, you’re an adult. You came here to express yourself, don’t get shy now.

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                I’ve said everything I mean and gave you more than enough information to answer your question.

                If you still can’t understand, then you need to improve your reading comprehension.

                I genuinely cannot help you here. I am sorry.

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                  Go look up the definition for dogwhistle. That word you used is a dogwhistle indicative of an extreme religious right wing ideology. That’s why you won’t explain it - you can’t. You don’t know why you’re afraid, you just are. That’s indoctrination. Everyone here understands what you mean, you’re just terrified of explaining it.

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      They have like 1000 websites like Facebook and Twitter to go to, we need our own spaces. I think we should try to block them so they don’t burn this platform with their stupid bullshit.

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    They’re welcome to it.

    As far as I’m concerned, this is the entire benefit of lemmy/piefed/etc… They can have their space, and any other instance can choose not to federate with them so we aren’t forced to listen to them, unlike the alternative, where an algorithm forces them into everyone’s face.

    Rather than telling them they don’t have the right to speak, we simply have the ability to shut our window and not listen to them.

    Let them bitch at each other.

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      I disagree with them being welcome, if we have more fascists over here eventually we’ll get overrun. Best to shut that door immediately.

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        You have a very poor understanding of how the fediverse works if you think that’s true.

        You can always section yourself off from the instances you don’t like. If it just so happens that you’re sectioning yourself off from most of the fediverse, then that’s on you.

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        Here is copied pasted version


        Calling the police often escalates situations, puts people at risk, and leads to violence. Anytime you seek help from the police, you’re inviting them into your community and putting people who may already be vulnerable into dangerous situations. Sometimes people feel that calling the police is the only way to deal with problems. But we can build trusted networks of mutual aid that allow us to better handle conflicts ourselves and move toward forms of transformative justice, while keeping police away from our neighborhoods.

        Don’t feel obligated to defend property—especially corporate “private” property. Before confronting someone or contacting the police, ask yourself if anyone is being hurt or endangered by property “theft” or damage. If the answer is “no,” then let it be.

        If something of yours is stolen and you need to file a report for insurance or other purposes, consider going to the police station instead of bringing cops into your community. You may inadvertently be putting someone in your neighborhood at risk.

        If you observe someone exhibiting behavior that seems “odd” to you, don’t assume that they are publicly intoxicated. A traumatic brain injury or a similar medical episode may be occurring. Ask if they are OK, if they have a medical condition, and if they need assistance.

        If you see someone pulled over with car trouble, stop and ask if they need help or if you can call a tow truck for them. If the police are introduced to such a situation, they may give punitive and unnecessary tickets to people with car issues, target those without papers, or worse.

        Keep a contact list of community resources like suicide hotlines. When police are contacted to “manage” such situations, people with mental illness are sixteen times more likely to be killed by cops than those without mental health challenges.

        Check your impulse to call the police on someone you believe looks or is acting “suspicious.” Is their race, gender, ethnicity, class, or housing situation influencing your choice? Such calls can be death sentences for many people.

        Encourage teachers, coworkers, and organizers to avoid inviting police into classrooms, workplaces, and public spaces. Instead, create for a culture of taking care of each other and not unwittingly putting people in harm’s way. If you’re part of a group that’s holding a rally or demonstration, don’t get a permit or otherwise cooperate with the police.

        If your neighbor is having a party and the noise is bothering you, go over and talk to them. Getting to know your neighbors with community events like monthly block parties is a good way to make asking them to quiet down a little less uncomfortable, or to find another neighbor who is willing to do so.

        If you see someone peeing in public, just look away! Remember, for example, that many houseless people do not have reliable access to bathrooms.

        Hold and attend deescalation, conflict resolution, first-aid, volunteer medic, and self-defense workshops in your neighborhood, school, workplace, or community organization.

        Street art is beautiful! Don’t report graffiti and other street artists. If you see work that includes fascistic or hate speech, paint over it yourself or with friends.

        Remember that police can escalate domestic violence situations. You can support friends and neighbors who are being victimized by abusers by offering them a place to stay, a ride to a safe location, or to watch their children. Utilize community resources like safe houses and hotlines.

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          Before I even read the thing, “here’s the link, I havent read it myself” is the single most gigachad thing I’ve ever read, you live up to your username my dear King/Queen/Inbetween, thank you!

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    I’ve noticed a significant uptick in rightist trolls on the fediverse since the devil called Charlie Kirk home. Absolutely nowhere is safe from fascist infiltration for long. Hopefully the half decent instances defederate from those cesspits en masse.